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and about the bureau's handling of the older brother tamerlan tsarnaev. let's go to chief political analyst gloria borger. talk about the pressure, the pressure the fbi is under to explain what the heck happened. >> announcer: lot of pressure. first of all, members of congress want to do their job and know what the fbi knew, when, they want to make sure information wasn't what we call in washington speak siloed, you know, post 9/11 the big issue was that agencies need to be sharing information. they want to make sure that, for example, the fbi, department of homeland security, intelligence were all sharing information. there is another really important question which just sort of came up today. if the fbi investigated this man and decided he was not really a threat, they contact the russians, they try to get more information, they don't get more information, what can they then do that doesn't violate federal guidelines to continue to pursue him? where do they have to cut it off? where does legal and illegal surveillance begin? there are federal guidelines
and about the bureau's handling of the older brother tamerlan tsarnaev. let's go to chief political analyst gloria borger. talk about the pressure, the pressure the fbi is under to explain what the heck happened. >> announcer: lot of pressure. first of all, members of congress want to do their job and know what the fbi knew, when, they want to make sure information wasn't what we call in washington speak siloed, you know, post 9/11 the big issue was that agencies need to be sharing...
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what triggered tamerlan's cad ralization? luis vasquez who befriended him said he last saw tamerlan three years ago. when i asked why his friend drifted to radical islam -- >> the only thing i can think of, i only want to say what i'm sure of, that one of the sources of this could have been some kind of dissatisfaction of the bad, slow transition to coming to another country from a different one, as a teenager. that's never easy. >> vasquez now shares the sentments of those at the mosque, perplexed as to why the man they knew drifted in that direction, and angry he did it. >> lots of unanswered questions. brian todd, thanks very much. >>> one bostonian that was uncomfortably close to tsarnaev's gun fight with the police tells his story to cnn. a bullet went right through his roommate's desk chair. >>> plus, another dramatic cnn interview with the mother of the bombing suspects, who insists they were framed. [ male announcer ] if she keeps serving up sneezes... [ sneezing ] she may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec®.
what triggered tamerlan's cad ralization? luis vasquez who befriended him said he last saw tamerlan three years ago. when i asked why his friend drifted to radical islam -- >> the only thing i can think of, i only want to say what i'm sure of, that one of the sources of this could have been some kind of dissatisfaction of the bad, slow transition to coming to another country from a different one, as a teenager. that's never easy. >> vasquez now shares the sentments of those at the...
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she was incredibly close to tamerlan, the elder son. and of course distraught by learning and convinced of his death last night. >> thank you very much for the reporting on this. really baffling how someone could take an extreme term and behavior and those closest to him seem completely oblivious to it. another part of the mystery of this situation. again, thanks for that, thick. >>> back here in boston, the big question is, which way the investigation will go? there's still so much unanswered, so much information, that authorities are hoping are inside the mind of the suspect they have in the hospital, the more he can speak, the more they can learn. we'll take a look at what possible charges are and directions and choices that have to be made by federal prosecutors to make their case when we come back. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and the streetsmart edge trading platform from charles schwab... tdd#:
she was incredibly close to tamerlan, the elder son. and of course distraught by learning and convinced of his death last night. >> thank you very much for the reporting on this. really baffling how someone could take an extreme term and behavior and those closest to him seem completely oblivious to it. another part of the mystery of this situation. again, thanks for that, thick. >>> back here in boston, the big question is, which way the investigation will go? there's still so...
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we are still trying to get to the real story on tamerlan tsarnaev's trip to russia last year and his possible ties to terrorism and islamic extremism. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is following that thread tonight. >> the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and six-month trip to russia the following year now face congressional scrutiny. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia and, if you weren't, the reason? >> yes. the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned all investigations had been -- the matter had been closed. >> napolitano said the lookout system that flags agents federal investigation no longer active when tamerlan returned from russia in july of 2012. >> the system picked up departure but did not pick him coming back, correct? >> the fbi text alert on him at that point was more than a year old and had expired. >> napolitano's pluck contradict briefing given by the fbi director. >> after talking to the fbi they told me they had no knowledge of him leaving or coming back. the name was misspelled.
we are still trying to get to the real story on tamerlan tsarnaev's trip to russia last year and his possible ties to terrorism and islamic extremism. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is following that thread tonight. >> the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and six-month trip to russia the following year now face congressional scrutiny. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia and, if you weren't, the reason? >> yes. the system pinged...
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it appears to show some bodies on the ground maybe tamerlan and cops. dzhokhar speeding toward him in the car. that's when police say he ran over and killed his brother. also boston police today described the next day on monday, when dzhokhar was captured on the boat. >> as soon as we had gotten there, we detected movement in the boat we could see a hand up poking at the top. whether they were trying to, you know, poke a hole in the top or if they had a handgun, we weren't sure. >> those photos just absolutely searing. shep? >> shepard: they really are. eric, more funerals today. >> yeah. funeral for a little boy fits the cold, gray day and somber mood of boston. the little 8-year-old martin richard was laid to rest today. 500 people attended his funeral mass. many of the children were crying. you know he was killed when he he was cheering on his dad at the race. his parents thanked the nation for their outpouring of love and support they said. also laid to rest today, 26-year-old mit campus police officer sean collier, tomorrow vice president joe biden
it appears to show some bodies on the ground maybe tamerlan and cops. dzhokhar speeding toward him in the car. that's when police say he ran over and killed his brother. also boston police today described the next day on monday, when dzhokhar was captured on the boat. >> as soon as we had gotten there, we detected movement in the boat we could see a hand up poking at the top. whether they were trying to, you know, poke a hole in the top or if they had a handgun, we weren't sure. >>...
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in the united states. >> the hearing this morning created more confusion over the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and which federal agency new about his trip the following 'er to russia. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia, and if you weren't, the reason. >> the travel in 2012 you're referring to, yes, the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned, all investigations had been -- the matter had been closed. >> but napolitano's statements chronic with what assistant fbi briefed another lawmaker who is a member of the judiciary committee. >> the fbi told me they had no knowledge of him leaving or coming back. the name was misspelled so i would like to talk to you more about this case. how this man left. where he went, and when we say there was no broader plot here, i don't know how in the world we know that at this early stage. reporter: napolitano testifying the system that flags border agents to individuals under investigation, like tamerlan tsarnaev, was no longer valid and expired by the time the 26-year-old returned from russ
in the united states. >> the hearing this morning created more confusion over the fbi's handling of tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 and which federal agency new about his trip the following 'er to russia. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia, and if you weren't, the reason. >> the travel in 2012 you're referring to, yes, the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned, all investigations had been -- the matter had been closed....
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investigators are also looking into tamerlan's six month trip to russia last year. it's unclear what he was doing there.or if he had any contact with terror groups. >> pam: funeral services were held today for one of the victims killed in the boston bombings -- krystle campbell. mourners hung an american flag outside the church in medford, massachusetts. hundreds of family and friends packed a church there. while dozens more waited outside after being turned away because the church was full. family members held a wake for the 29-year-old on sunday. another victim killed by bomb blasts at the boston marathon has been honored at a memorial tonight at boston university. graduate student lu lingzi was described as a sweet- hearted woman. passionate about piano, her studies and loving life. hundreds attended the gathering including governor deval patrick. lu, who was from china, studied statistics. of the younger victims of the terror attack -- a bay area boy - 11 year old aaron hern of martinez -- got a visit from some of his baseball heroes this morning. return to here
investigators are also looking into tamerlan's six month trip to russia last year. it's unclear what he was doing there.or if he had any contact with terror groups. >> pam: funeral services were held today for one of the victims killed in the boston bombings -- krystle campbell. mourners hung an american flag outside the church in medford, massachusetts. hundreds of family and friends packed a church there. while dozens more waited outside after being turned away because the church was...
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that's the last she would have heard from tamerlan. >> we appreciate that. there are other family ties to dig deeper on. katherine russell is the widow of the older brother. investigators want to find out what she may know. tell us what did you find out about this woman. >> just in the last five minutes, katherine russell returned home to her house after a meeting with her lawyer. she went for a meeting. we know he has been speaking with some of those investigators on her behalf. perhaps we are getting closer to the point she may address some of their concerns directly. as they look at the fact that s she shared that cramped apartment with tamerlan tsarn v tsarnaev. she is devastated by this. the investigators want to know exactly what she may have known as they try to piece together what happened and try to determine when and where he may have assembled some of those bombs. that's the reason they want to talk to her. her attorney still tells us she had no idea any of this was going on. anderson. >> i mean, obviously it is understandable why they would want
that's the last she would have heard from tamerlan. >> we appreciate that. there are other family ties to dig deeper on. katherine russell is the widow of the older brother. investigators want to find out what she may know. tell us what did you find out about this woman. >> just in the last five minutes, katherine russell returned home to her house after a meeting with her lawyer. she went for a meeting. we know he has been speaking with some of those investigators on her behalf....
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tamerlan didn't come right in the beginning. so he had a lot of moves, a lot of difficult things -- jenna: if i could, anne, even considering that very dynamic past if that is, indeed, the case, and we showed a little bit of the interview with the teacher, people go through that, and not everyone becomes a terrorist. so what would be the tipping point, if you will, for someone in a state, a mental state where there's ptsd or other side to, again, switch to terrorism? >> the way these groups work, they take a vulnerable individual which he was, and they expose them to a terrorist ideology, and the current militant jihadi ideology has a narrative where they feel sorry for muslims that they claim are oppressed around the world, and they instigate for fighting back against western powers that are supposedly hurting muslims around the world. he uploaded a video of the syrian uprising showing that he felt sympathy for what assad was doing to the syrian people there, which was very similar to what happened to the chechnyan people. a lo
tamerlan didn't come right in the beginning. so he had a lot of moves, a lot of difficult things -- jenna: if i could, anne, even considering that very dynamic past if that is, indeed, the case, and we showed a little bit of the interview with the teacher, people go through that, and not everyone becomes a terrorist. so what would be the tipping point, if you will, for someone in a state, a mental state where there's ptsd or other side to, again, switch to terrorism? >> the way these...